http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/ The notes of the Geeky Artist Librarian Extraordinaire, Starr Hoffman. en http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/feedlogo.gif http://pbwiki.com/ PBwiki 3.7 support@pbwiki.com http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/Summer2008ProjectList email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited Summer2008ProjectList]]> Thu, 15 May 2008 21:13:21 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/OldHouse email.hidden@example.com (alex) alex edited OldHouse]]> Sun, 11 May 2008 14:58:40 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 MetroDocs in OK also interested in collaborative training (see handouts for two events)
virtual training mentioned again; if we record them, they'll be available for regionals to give to new depository librarians to help them learn
Next Meeting
Chris Brady is Secretary, so that makes him Chair-Elect (he'll be next Chair)
fall meeting?
November 6th, 2008
at Baylor
need to elect Secretary to take minutes, send out note: Brenda Mahar volunteered
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1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:58:26 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 Suzanne: meeting virtually is a good method, too, to pull the state groups together
MetroDocs in OK also interested in collaborative training (see handouts for two events)
virtual training mentioned again; if we record them, they'll be available for regionals to give to new depository librarians to help them learn
(11:30 - 1:00, LUNCH)
1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:53:36 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 as a results, Tom's trying to send less email and use the blog as his information "push" resource
setting up rules to direct auto-messages like IT updates, etc.
General Comments
Julia mentioned book on gov doc librarianship
"Government Documents Librarianship" by Lisa A. Ennis, ISBN 978-1-57387-270-6
gives a good sense of your role
talks a lot about what to do, procedure, etc.--good beginner's guide
Julia: personal goal to make a display for the presidential election
provide some kind of program related to this
bringing attention to the collection is the important part
Ellen's also doing something on the election
Conference Reports
FDLP Spring 2008
Tom L. discussed briefly concerns about more agency electronic databases being pulled
Suzanne said FDsys is supposed to help address this type of thing, but it won't be working with dynamic databases--it's the agency's call
Julia mentioned book on gov doc librarianship
"Governm]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:50:23 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 Suzanne: looks like because of selectives complaints, GPO has been looking to do away with regionals
the basic structure is good, but there are management issues and new regional librarians who weren't trained and don't know what to do
needs to be some standardization and agreement on duties, and provide training or hands-on experience with an experienced regional librarian
need a manageable number of selectives under regionals
think the regionals are the safeguard to keep selectives in the program, because they can talk to library directors about the realities of dropping out of the program
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1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:46:54 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 Suzanne: public libraries need to be able to financially justify the status to their directors
for larger states to be limited to two regionals is ludicrous; need to be able to visit their selectives regularly and help new librarians
Ellen: would some of these changes call for changes in Title 44?
Suzanne: yes, thinks that Title 44 specifies two regionals per state
that's where population density could be helpful
Charlotte: interesting that GPO titled it "A Time for Change"
looks like GPO is already of the mindset that they'll be proposing a change
Suzanne: looks like because of selectives complaints, GPO has been looking to do away with regionals
the basic structure is good, but there are management issues and new regional librarians who weren't trained and don't know what to do
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]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:45:18 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 Tom R. says yes, and also funding or consultants are also needed
Ellen: it could help to get more people to step up to be regionals if they get funding/support
Suzanne: that's exactly why there are so few public libraries in the depository program, because they want money to balance out the work being done (the prestige isn't enough for public libraries)
Tom R.: they discussed that idea of providing "carrots" some years ago
Suzanne: public libraries need to be able to financially justify the status to their directors
for larger states to be limited to two regionals is ludicrous; need to be able to visit their selectives regularly and help new librarians
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1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:42:47 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 server space is much cheaper than shelf space, so this shouldn't be a major issue
but she hasn't heard that idea mentioned again lately
this ought to be done with at least 10 regionals in different areas of the country (similar to LOCKSS) to protect it
Tom R.: 1970's idea of regional-selective
like that idea by population density
having it by state, administratively might work better, though
between states, if there are good relations, could work
informally, Tech and UNM deans have been discussing this
New Mexico also discussing shared regional status
he sees it important to keep many regionals
Ellen: what do the regionals need?
are they short-staffed? how can our comments show what types of support they need?
Tom R.: number one, from his standpoint, need system support (distributed regional system)
flexibility to meet the changing nature of information; past idea of super-regionals
Suzanne doesn't see how only 10 super-regionals could do the amount of things th]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:40:24 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 also wants to raise awareness that the government doesn't always let us know what is happening, that we are threatened by them closing informational doors (EPA, Ag., etc.)
in our response to the regional survey, we need to mention that
likes Suzanne's idea about providing positive feedback
likes Charlotte's idea of specializing and breaking up tasks
Suzanne: electronic depositories was an idea brought up by Cathy
Charlotte: one problem with that is that it breaks up the information--when we're answering questions, we don't care what format it's in, it's the content that we're looking for
Suzanne: there was talk at FDLP 4 or 5 years ago about pushing content out form FDsys to house on local library servers (push what you selected)
server space is much cheaper than shelf space, so this shouldn't be a major issue
but she hasn't heard that idea mentioned again lately
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1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:32:25 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 Joint Committee on Printing asked GPO for report by June 1
we need to discuss that more; GPO needs more comments
Coby Condrey and Cathy Hartman's discussion about the issue on the list-serv (TLA GODORT)
Ellen asked how can we best send comments to GPO
such an important job that regionals have, but how can it get done?
what is important for the JCP to hear?
Suzanne: constructive comments are good: provide a solution
she hears all the gripes, and wonders if JCP will only hear "this isn't working" and then decide to do away with regionals altogether
Charlotte: one of Cathy's concerns was that we need to *not* reduce the number of regionals--we need as many as possible
on the other hand, Coby's comments were more practical, that we have limited resources and can't do all that's expected of us--she can see that point, too
she's thinking about at what point does the task get so big that it's specialized and broken down (several people)
by working as a team, we can hel]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:28:38 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 Joint Committee on Printing asked GPO for report by June 1
we need to discuss that more; GPO needs more comments
Tom L. discussed briefly concerns about more agency electronic databases being pulled
Suzanne said FDsys is supposed to help address this type of thing, but it won't be working with dynamic databases--it's the agency's call
(11:30 - 1:00, LUNCH)
1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
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05.08.2008
attendees:
9:30 - 10:00, Refreshments & Meet/Greet
10:00 - 11:30, Meeting
small libraries are interested, but too small to do it alone
John Shuler's Gov Info Online project is a good model: his library is the interface with GPO, but he is also partnering with several other libraries
regionals discussion
Joint Committee on Printing asked GPO for report by June 1
we need to discuss that more; GPO needs more comments
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1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
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setting up rules to direct auto-messages like IT updates, etc.
Conference Reports
FDLP Spring 2008
GPO provided spiral-bound proceedings of the meeting
DLC page has a lot of this online
already set meeting dates/places for fall and spring meetings
Oct 20 - 22, 2008: Doubletree in Arlington
April ?: Hyatt Regency in Tampa, FL
not many people have submitted ideas for OPAL presentations to GPO
ideas thus far: may have one on DDM2, patents, Browse Topics (how to contribute), Browse Topics (how to use it)
let Suzanne know if there's a topic you'd like to see presented
maybe a good way to use DDM2 to weed, since that topic came up a lot today
discussion on the Public Access Assessments
taking your answers to the Biennial Survey and your library webpage, to determine if you need a site visit
you can also request a site visit at any time
you can email someone]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:07:19 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/GovInfoWebpages1_20080508 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited GovInfoWebpages1_20080508 USA.gov: http://www.usa.gov/
Federal agencies directory from LSU: http://www.lib.lsu.edu/gov/fedgov.html
e-government services
ways to cite government documents
other depository library pages
you can link to them or emulate certain elements from their page, but don’t directly copy the entire page
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 11:00:24 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 wrote some LibGuides on documents-related areas
started a blog where he's posting notable items related to current events, etc.
in Reference, did a one-week time-log: 23% spent in email, only 8% as liaison to campus depts.
as a results, Tom's trying to send less email and use the blog as his information "push" resource
setting up rules to direct auto-messages like IT updates, etc.
(11:30 - 1:00, LUNCH)
1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 10:59:38 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 uses DDM2 quite a bit
wrote a draft collection development policy
wrote some LibGuides on documents-related areas
started a blog where he's posting notable items related to current events, etc.
(11:30 - 1:00, LUNCH)
1:00 - 2:00, WebpageTraining
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2:00, Webpage Training
trainingpresentation WebpageTraining
2:00 - 2:30, Intro to UNT'sDigitalCollections
3:00 - 3:30, Tour of UNTLibraryDigitalProjectsLab
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 10:52:04 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 raised documents profile, more involved
looking at space issues
Tom Lindsay, UTA
been weeding since 1997 and will probably do so until he retires
has database/spreadsheet of 30,000 documents that he uses as a weeding list, includes classification numbers
happy to send copies of the list to anyone who's interested
selection rate around 52%
uses DDM2 quite a bit
wrote a draft collection development policy
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1:00 - 2:00, Webpage Training
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 10:50:54 +0000 mod http://geekyartistlibrarian.pbwiki.com/NORDOCS_Spring2008 email.hidden@example.com (Starrlett) Starrlett edited NORDOCS_Spring2008 actually seen rise in documents questions since this time
law library has Digitized Serial Set; hoping to get wider library access to that
Baylor Law Law Library
been at Baylor for almost a year
cleared the backlog that he inherited (in January)
very small selection (about 5%): focus on law and congressional
would like to revisit their selection rate
Wood, Baylor Baylor Library
Lexis Serial Set and Congressional Hearings (with law library)
folded dept. into reference dept. (had to move part of collection)
raised documents profile, more involved
looking at space issues
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