Emerging Technologies Group (ETG) Meeting

notes taken by Starr Hoffman

6.20.06


 

Attendees:

  • Mark Phillips
  • Beth Thomsett-Scott
  • Martin Wallace
  • Nicole Morgan
  • Pam Johnston
  • Shaun Seibel (guest)
  • Starr Hoffman (guest)

 

minutes are on shared drive:

H:\SHARED\STAFF\Committees and Work Groups\Emerging Technologies Group

 

Next Meeting: July 11th

Following Meeting: July 25th


 

General

 

  • ETG doesn't perform projects
  • ETG they identifies projects, goes over issues, makes recommendations, and helps with the group performing the project
  • need Charter Scope Statement
    • have six months (until October)
    • will discuss again in August

 

Friday Frags

 

  • discussion about moving them online (whether in a blog or other format)
  • comments from library employees on the forum
  • could use wiki for this discussion, but prefer forum (all info in one place, hosted by library)
  • might require a login, similar to some InHouse articles
  • may be blog format, but should easily incorporate RSS regardless
  • possible project managers: Diane Wahl, Gay Woods (very interested in blogs)
  • these ideas are not yet written down; should add these to the forum
  • not quite ready to hand this project off

 

Friday Frags thru Plone

  • Garret is exploring blog modules with Plone
  • RSS feeds are easily assigned in Plone
  • will be implementing Plone as CMS over next year
  • could use Friday Frags as an early trial Plone run for William & Garret

 

mylibrary

  • in general, university-wide (like MyUNT) portals are more in favor than library portals
  • however, in MyUNT, we'd probably we at the bottom of the far right column (not very prominent)
  • at best, we'll probably get a link out to the mylibrary portal
  • what services should be offered, and are their other methods of offering them?
  • login through LDAP may only provide declared major (not always current) and contact information
  • would like to receive info on student status (year) and courses for that semester (could then display relevant reserves holdings)
  • optionally, users could fill in blanks: major, status--use these to set up preferences
  • can use mylibrary to keep track of internet searches & sources
  • suggest ER databases based on past history & course info
  • mymillennium doesn't seem as flexible as mylibrary, but could perhaps be combined with it

 

Beth's Progress on mylibrary

  • went through other mylibrary sites and emailed many people involved
  • she will collate her material and email it to the group
  • she will prepare a concept map / draft of ideas
  • she will also look into optional services

 

MyUNT

  • Mark will move forward on this
  • will get a group together to talk about the possibilities

 

Federated Search

Upcoming TechTalk on the topic (8.22)

  • this system would work aside Innovative (ILS)
  • trying for a more intuitive system for students
  • trying to head toward single search box, more like Google (only Endeca has data dumped into it, while Google harvests data)
  • still no database-level searching; suggests db's based on topic
  • similar to "related" search concept

 

Options

  • Endeca
    • example: NCSU catalog (info)
    • very expensive (Endeca $800,000 without consulting fees)
    • UT moving to ILS instead of home-grown
    • "guided browsing" or "browse navigation/searching"
  • Siderean "faceted searching" (RDF / RSS)
  • several vendors are courting Cathy; all msgs are fwdd to Mark
  • Berkely "open source-ish" model
    • Mark has tested this with a collection of 30,000 photos organized by various facets (format, year, people, keywords)
    • small tests of MARC records in this model reveal cataloging problems
  • big vendor solutions aren't very good; SFX is okay
  • LOT model (cheap through Keystone software)
  • what are Amazon / Barnes & Noble using for their search?

 

Operation

  • each week, dump all catalog info (and ER, and digital collection) into this system
  • would include all libraries content:
    • catalog
    • digital collections
    • ER databases (won't search individual articles, just database by topic)
  • not truly a federated search (in which use protocols like Z39.50 to retrieve info from various databases)
  • federated search: LOT performs realtime queries & points to data in different locations
  • this model is problematic to implement in a system like ours
  • facted search: Endeca searches (one location) within info that is dumped into it once a week (from all library content)
  • facets would be based on MARC records (subject, publisher, etc.)

 

NCSU Example

  • search "civil war" (results)
  • can browse by the predetermined facets
  • these categories include:
    • region (for instance, civil war in China vs. US)
    • publication date
    • publisher
    • genre
    • subject
  • can narrow by results within LC categories
  • click on title: taken to record inside catalog

 

Issues & Discussion

  • iii will make getting core dump of MARC records difficult
  • could simply add content to catalog, except that you'd only get a metadata search of digital collections (lose full-text keyword searchability)
  • what about Webfeat?
    • Mark will explore this
  • Mark will look into this more, gather info at ALA, and get literature on it

 


 

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